I am glad to hear Mark keep emphasizing that the program he has developed and is still developing is long term. So many turf managers expect to apply something, and only something, and see an immediate result. That works with gasoline, but not microbials. I learned this years ago when working with Jim Prusa at Harding Park in San Francisco. Unfortunately we were under pressure to produce immediate results under rigid chemical restrictions, which caused many sleepless nights. In the end, the microbiological approach came through. We saw less and less need for concern as the disease pressure dropped with time. That is the main problem - having the ability to exercise enough patience and time to see the results of the holistic approach Mark has embraced. This was a great interview, Randy.

Thank you, Jonathan.

It was difficult to edit this one, because I don't understand the words that come out of Mark--lots of dictionary work.

I always feel like a slacker and an ignoramus after listening to Mark. Great job as always and your hair sounded just fine.